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the oldest

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and strongest human emotion is fear

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when we were children our parents told

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane my

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name is lon

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strickler join me as i examine

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unexplained creatures

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strange manifestations and remarkable

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realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural come

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on board

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hey folks good evening welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio where we

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explore the unexplained

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live on beyond explanation i'm your host

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lon strickler coming to you within a

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historic gettysburg pennsylvania thanks

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should be interesting now

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best laid plants well you know that

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happens tonight

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uh tonya derenberger had to cancel out

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so we're going to reschedule her at a

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so tonight i'm going to give you the

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to ask me anything you like

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and then when i say asking go to the

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chat room

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on youtube and go ahead and put your

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questions in there

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uh vincent will be vincent richardson

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will be helping me

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and uh we will try to answer as many

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so let's see first question recall any

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encounters reports of

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entities that leave behind a potent

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sickening smell well

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i have been involved with cases like

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that and and one in particular

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actually i can i can talk about and hey

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vincent how you doing

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hey how are you um i had a

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i had a haunting case

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down near ellicott city maryland i don't

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know if

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many of you know where that's at but

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it's just uh

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it's west of baltimore about 10 miles

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west of baltimore

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and it was along the patapsco river

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river road actually that was named the

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and uh there was an old

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area there that was owned at the time by

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baltimore gas and electric but there

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uh part of a plantation or homestead

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that was there

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in fact i think there was an actual

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paper mill

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built around that area previously i've

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written about it

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years ago but uh i was just basically

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an investigation in this area now it was

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kind of a marshy area

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um it was alongside the river this was

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at night during the summer and just

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partying everything right over the river

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i had people telling me that it was very

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haunted there

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so um what happened was

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uh i decided to go down and do an

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investigation this was

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this was actually back in the 80s early

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about the time i had the bigfoot

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encounter be honest with you

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so uh i was there

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uh in this in this marshy area along the

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uh moonlit night

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hot as hell i was in august i think

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um you know i'm just sitting there

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you know i'm somewhat uh

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uh you know i can pick up on

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spirit energy and stuff and i was i was

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feeling it it was it was pretty strong

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at night

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so i was just sitting i was hearing

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stuff and you know

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i thought and maybe small animals and

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stuff it was really

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up it was a really thick area with a lot

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i noticed a blue figure

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starting to manifest about i'd say about

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a hundred foot in front of me not far

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from the road

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i was back along yo on a wall from the

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original

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building that was there and i kept

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watching this thing

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and it was moving it was moving through

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the weeds

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and as i continued to watch it

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and i did something stupid i'm gonna

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preface this right now i did something

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really dumb that i shouldn't have did

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but anyway

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i was watching this thing and it it

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looked like a woman

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in like a blue dress and it was lit up

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it was really lit up

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it was like a full figure apparition and

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i could tell this woman was somewhat

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young had dark

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black hair and she was just moving back

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and forth

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in front of me so me being stupid

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at the time i figured i'm going to get

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and what happened was

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i i kind of went towards it

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very slowly and it rushed me

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and it it basically ran into me

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and when that happened i had this

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sick sweet smell

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it you know it was i i described this as

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being like honeysuckle though there was

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no honey

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i didn't snuck on the area at that time

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and it had that really

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sickly smell of honeysuckle and

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uh i mean it did it it it freaked me out

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that was one of the few times i had an

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actual

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physical encounter with with an entity

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so you know after that happened she kind

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of dissipated i didn't see her anymore

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so that night i went home

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and i i was actually married to my first

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wife

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and i went home and i walked in the door

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and she said what the hell is that smell

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and literally it was so bad i had to

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sleep on the couch for a week

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it stuck with me just like a skunk would

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was whatever you sprayed me it was

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terrible

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and i mean i'll never forget that that

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was that was probably one of the

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few times that something has

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actually left like an odor or some type

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of uh

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remnants with me so uh yeah that that's

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kind of the thing that stuck out with me

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with that so

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it was yeah it was potent i could almost

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taste it it was it was terrible

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and uh so there you go

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that's my personal encounter with it and

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i have heard of others as well

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uh people have talked to me what do you

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think vinci you have

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you ever hear anybody having that

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something like happened to

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absolutely actually on a on a case uh

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there was a sickly smell like that it

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was it's like a sweet almost like

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meat rot smell yeah and it was uh it was

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in this

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attic of this uh building these people

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reported having

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some sort of activity up there they they

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thought it was of the more of a

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evil side of the things but uh i mean

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i couldn't find any proof of that but

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well you know you hear these stories of

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you know of uh

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like the d comp smell of

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i don't really think i've ever

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experienced that um

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i don't know if that means some type of

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malevolency

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or whatever i mean you know sometimes

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when uh when this spirit energy or when

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the energy itself is

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on this earth plane it's an earthbound

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entity

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uh you know it it does have the ability

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to project

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certain uh physical traits and

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uh sometimes you know just like with

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people talk about it it seemed like a

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family member would come back for a

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brief period they hear they smell like

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perfume

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or smell like uh cigar smoke or

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something like that

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you know and just to give them the hint

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that maybe it was somebody that you know

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they knew in life

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uh yeah i mean it does happen

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personally that was probably the only

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time it happened to me

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uh you know i guess the spirits around

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me just

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don't stink that i don't know but that

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was uh yeah that's just kind of what

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happened to me

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so so anyway folks if you've got

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questions tonight just put it up on the

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chat room

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uh vince it'll be helping me out have

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you personally seen

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any and this is from nancy malcolm have

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seen any faye

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or other we folk personally i have i've

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talked to a lot of people who have

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uh you know it's interesting i i've got

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uh people know tim renner and uh

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josh cutchen i'm i'm trying to go

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get them back on the show but they have

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done a lot of research into this

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and uh you know rosemary allen guy

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used to talk about that as well and of

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course i've been i've been involved with

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cases where apparently these things have

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been seen

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uh they seem to um

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they seem to show up around aries where

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the other other paranormal activities

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i i have heard of uh

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little people or fey or anything

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something to that effect being around

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areas where the bigfoot activity dogman

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activity

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i don't know why they show up there i i

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you know but uh that has happened

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uh you know if you read accounts by

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are first nations about uh especially

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canada you you get a lot of the

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accounts of these uh these

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small people or fate whatever you want

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to call them

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uh encountering something like that i

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i have added i had a case one time

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out in western pennsylvania something

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like that

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uh i had to dig it up and post it again

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but it it was basically that

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there was a group of friends on a

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covered porch one night in

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summertime uh they were sitting out

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there

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drinking and just talking and and one of

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these things showed up

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and everybody saw it i mean it was like

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and he they had even drawn a a picture

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of it and it just looked like a female

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fail you know a tinkerbell type of thing

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and the guy told me it was um

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there's no more maybe about five six

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inches in height

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but it literally did spread its wings

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out and everybody got a good look at it

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and you know you hear that you hear a

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do you think you'll ever have a

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conference say in 2022

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well i don't know you know i um

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i don't attend many conferences you know

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i haven't in the past even when

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we had to worry about coving i i haven't

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been to too many

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uh i i have in the past

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talked about doing more of them

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uh you know i have talked to

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um actually sean forker and myself and

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even butch have talked about

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maybe getting something together here in

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pennsylvania

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some type of conference uh you know

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the logistics are a nightmare i know

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that right now because you know

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i talked to eric altman many times about

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him putting together his uh

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bigfoot adventures conference that he

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had put on a couple times

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and uh yeah it's a nightmare it really

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can be

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you know so i don't uh i don't know if

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we're ever gonna do that

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you know if i'm if i'm ever involved

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with

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doing a conference i uh

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everybody will know a lot a lot before

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that that i will be doing it

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the uh the albert which uh days

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will probably happen again this will

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happen this year

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uh so i might be at that that's in

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columbia pennsylvania

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so um i i i had to see what happens see

345
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what's scheduled i don't know

346
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you know i don't know what it you know

347
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the the conferences that

348
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are normally scheduled for the the

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summer are kind of

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in flux even now uh you know

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so folks what we got here

352
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what happened to the oklahoma case that

353
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that's diddy

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836 with brian fusco

355
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was working he's still involved with it

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um

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the only thing that has happened since

358
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then that i know of

359
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is that there have been

360
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apparently some type of um

361
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surveillance by outsiders in the area

362
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i don't know what this is all about i

363
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don't know

364
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you know it's actual government people

365
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i believe from the license plates that

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the witness had described that they may

367
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be something as far as

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um the uh

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reservation agent now i don't know

370
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what that's all about there are some

371
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reservations in the area

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um so you know i don't know you know

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ryan hasn't mentioned anything lately

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about it

375
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uh the guy is still seeing these

376
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strange manifestations in the area

377
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so you know when we we put out the post

378
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and we talked about it on the radio it

379
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kind of uh

380
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it did get some attention uh

381
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see that's that's the unfortunate thing

382
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about these type of cases

383
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um it will garner attention you know

384
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i've been involved with

385
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people coming up to me who have no idea

386
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who it is and ask me a whole lot of

387
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stuff

388
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and uh you know i eventually figure out

389
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if somebody with the government but

390
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that does happen and uh you know you may

391
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think that there you may not think that

392
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they're reading and watching but yeah

393
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they are

394
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so let's see what else we got here

395
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um apocalypse

396
00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:02,240
22. i have a question do you think

397
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birdman man controls birds like dog man

398
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controls coyotes

399
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i don't know i you know i'll be honest

400
00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:11,439
with you i really don't know of anything

401
00:17:14,470 --> 00:17:12,640
like that

402
00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:14,480
of them controlling birds or other

403
00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:15,839
flying

404
00:17:24,949 --> 00:17:22,230
you know i i i don't think they really

405
00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:24,959
have an association with

406
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you know flying creatures on our

407
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on our planet on our earth plane i mean

408
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i i

409
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believe personally that these are um

410
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some type of interdimensional being that

411
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come that make their way through somehow

412
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through a riff

413
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i don't i don't know what they can

414
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control

415
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on you know you know on this earth plane

416
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it made it i i haven't seen the evidence

417
00:17:56,070 --> 00:17:53,600
of it

418
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as far as coyotes and dog man i don't

419
00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:58,480
know what that's all about i i have

420
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heard people

421
00:18:05,590 --> 00:18:03,280
talk about that uh i don't know if

422
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there's any real correlation there

423
00:18:10,950 --> 00:18:09,039
um i i guess

424
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you know if they're in an area where

425
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coyotes are the coyotes are gonna

426
00:18:17,270 --> 00:18:16,559
they're gonna react you know that's just

427
00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:17,280
their nature

428
00:18:23,110 --> 00:18:20,640
they they will react so

429
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i have actually heard some reports of a

430
00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:24,000
dog man

431
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being seen in packs of coyotes or

432
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feral dogs they would be the alpha in

433
00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:32,320
that case uh

434
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do these animals follow their lead i i'm

435
00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:36,480
not sure

436
00:18:42,870 --> 00:18:40,880
i don't know yeah i don't know um

437
00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:42,880
you know i've heard i've heard reports

438
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of um

439
00:18:51,510 --> 00:18:47,840
well especially out in the danae navajo

440
00:18:52,710 --> 00:18:51,520
reservation of uh you know skinwalker

441
00:18:55,830 --> 00:18:52,720
entities

442
00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:55,840
having coyotes follow them around or for

443
00:19:01,190 --> 00:18:57,600
somewhat for whatever reason

444
00:19:03,430 --> 00:19:01,200
but as far as dog man upright canines

445
00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:03,440
you know i have heard it but i don't

446
00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:12,310
now nancy malcolm well what can we

447
00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:14,720
believe about all the alien news and

448
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:16,160
talk now

449
00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:20,000
so much as being said what's true well

450
00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:22,240
you know i wrote a book about alien

451
00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:23,360
disclosure

452
00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:30,150
you know i the whole ufo

453
00:19:36,710 --> 00:19:33,200
disclosure thing to me was just

454
00:19:38,710 --> 00:19:36,720
a pound nothing to be honest with you uh

455
00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:38,720
they kind of they kind of talked it up

456
00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:41,440
and got people interested and it just

457
00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:43,120
it just kind of fizzled out and quite

458
00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:45,280
frankly i mean the hoopla really did

459
00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:46,480
fizzle out

460
00:19:50,549 --> 00:19:48,559
yeah you're not really hearing much

461
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:50,559
about it now

462
00:19:58,870 --> 00:19:55,039
as far as um entities or

463
00:20:02,950 --> 00:19:58,880
yelling activity you know i

464
00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:02,960
i do believe that ufos for the most part

465
00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:05,200
are probably

466
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:07,760
innocuous type of lights and stuff i

467
00:20:11,029 --> 00:20:08,400
don't think

468
00:20:13,669 --> 00:20:11,039
all of them are associated with other

469
00:20:14,870 --> 00:20:13,679
worldly beings or other worldly aliens

470
00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:14,880
and such like that

471
00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:19,120
um i i do believe

472
00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:22,559
most aliens can traverse

473
00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:31,270
and i also believe that craft

474
00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:33,280
you know i don't i guess it depends on

475
00:20:39,190 --> 00:20:34,480
the size of crap

476
00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:40,870
i don't know i mean if you want to get a

477
00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:42,640
little more specific

478
00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:45,280
as far as uh or ask me a little more

479
00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:47,520
specific

480
00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:50,159
a question to do with that i can

481
00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:57,190
uh any updates from manuel will receive

482
00:21:01,270 --> 00:20:58,080
some marla

483
00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:01,280
yeah uh we haven't had anything

484
00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:04,400
lately it's been kind of slowed up you

485
00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:06,080
know it seemed like it got busy there

486
00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:07,919
for a while

487
00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:10,320
uh we got we did have the one report out

488
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,840
over here

489
00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:13,840
and then of course we had the uh the

490
00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:16,159
sighting down by the uh

491
00:21:22,230 --> 00:21:19,520
by the aquarium by the shed aquarium

492
00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:22,240
and um that was an excellent sighting

493
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:22,799
that was

494
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:25,600
you know we hadn't had a downtown well

495
00:21:29,510 --> 00:21:27,600
but the waterfront sliding like that for

496
00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:29,520
a while

497
00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:33,440
so uh you know since people are out and

498
00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:36,080
about i'm not sure i don't know why

499
00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:38,960
um you know we're not getting sightings

500
00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:40,240
unless this thing just

501
00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:43,360
isn't showing up i mean you know uh

502
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:46,400
you know we have had lulls in activity

503
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:47,919
before

504
00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:51,200
uh i don't know if it's just

505
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,520
if the conditions are right or what's

506
00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:55,280
going on you know

507
00:21:59,110 --> 00:21:57,440
uh that's why i believe that they are

508
00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:59,120
definitely not indigenous that there's

509
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:00,240
something that's not

510
00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:03,120
here and living and breeding or eating

511
00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:05,200
or whatever they do

512
00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:06,640
because for the most part their

513
00:22:11,909 --> 00:22:09,440
sightings are quick and they're gone

514
00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:11,919
and uh i think i think they do have the

515
00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:14,000
ability to move in and out

516
00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:17,200
and uh so i don't know

517
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:18,559
you know but no there haven't been

518
00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:27,909
nancy uh is there a war in space

519
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:30,559
concerning earth right now

520
00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:33,440
well if there was i don't know about it

521
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:34,559
i guess

522
00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:38,400
to ask about that

523
00:22:42,470 --> 00:22:40,240
i i think if there was he'd be

524
00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:42,480
mentioning it though

525
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:44,000
you know david has mentioned a lot of

526
00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:46,320
different things

527
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:50,080
uh you know there have been um

528
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,880
there have been supposed altercations

529
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:54,400
between

530
00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:56,960
these races who to me seem like they

531
00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:59,360
work together for the most part

532
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,760
you know if there is any type of war i

533
00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:03,280
don't think it's anything that's going

534
00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:05,120
on in our neighborhood

535
00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:08,159
uh you know you hear people all the time

536
00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:10,159
say well you know they've seen

537
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:11,919
fleets of these things fighting and

538
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:14,320
shooting at each other well

539
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:16,480
i don't know what that's all about i i i

540
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,240
just don't really believe it

541
00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:20,320
you know if if there was something

542
00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:22,080
happening up there

543
00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:24,400
that could be seen you know the

544
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:25,840
government and the military would be

545
00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:26,960
involved with that because they

546
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:30,240
see it uh if that was going on

547
00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:32,799
if and if it wasn't actually affecting

548
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:33,760
humans

549
00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:35,280
directly i'm quite sure they're not

550
00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:37,520
gonna tell us about it

551
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:41,919
sure there does seem to be several

552
00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:44,559
factions of different extraterrestrial

553
00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:45,279
uh

554
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:47,840
forces out there but whether they're at

555
00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:50,559
war with each other and they have uh

556
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:52,880
conflicting agendas i'm not sure yeah

557
00:24:02,230 --> 00:23:54,960
yeah

558
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:02,240
it seems that these these uh these

559
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:04,080
different races seem to work together

560
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:07,360
on a lot of a lot of respects especially

561
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:09,279
when it comes to abductions or

562
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:16,230
you know more and more more more these

563
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:19,440
abductions or counter reports

564
00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:22,159
there seem to be like human hybrids

565
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:23,600
involved more so

566
00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:27,200
than not uh you know

567
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:32,000
my theory on on aliens in particular

568
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:36,720
or that humans the human species

569
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:39,200
i believe is a universal species and

570
00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:40,320
when i say that

571
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:43,760
i mean that

572
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:46,559
if they are living in other galaxies or

573
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:49,440
other planets in this galaxy or you know

574
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:52,640
anywhere in the universe they

575
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:57,679
they may have a human a human origin

576
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:59,360
now i'm not saying it's a human origin

577
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:00,960
from earth

578
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:04,240
i think the humans on earth are

579
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:08,320
part or some type of

580
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:10,880
human species but i think there's a

581
00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:12,000
whole

582
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:17,039
i really do i mean you know i i you know

583
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:18,799
there's a lot of um

584
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:20,240
there's a lot of different sightings of

585
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:21,919
a lot of different so-called

586
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:23,520
extraterrestrials or

587
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,640
aliens that are you know

588
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:28,799
actually seems like these insectoids are

589
00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:30,960
in the uh shadows kind of pulling the

590
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:33,039
strings doesn't it

591
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:34,799
yeah you know i've got my own theory

592
00:25:40,830 --> 00:25:36,640
about insectoids

593
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:40,840
um i believe i don't think the really

594
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:44,320
insects you know sure involved inside

595
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:48,480
i i think the the reptilian race

596
00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:52,640
has the ability through a hierarchy to

597
00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:56,080
to man uh to uh

598
00:26:00,549 --> 00:25:59,279
i don't know to change into or transform

599
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:00,559
into

600
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:04,080
another type of being and quite frankly

601
00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:05,600
you know people talk about these

602
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:08,640
mantoids like a metamorphosis

603
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:11,840
yeah metamorphosis that when when one

604
00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:12,799
goes into

605
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:20,320
think those mantoids

606
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:23,360
are the highest you know of the

607
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:24,480
hierarchy

608
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:26,640
i think those are actually reptoids that

609
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:27,760
have that have

610
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:30,880
like you said uh metaphors

611
00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:34,480
you know meta that changed into

612
00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:36,559
yeah i i and you know i've heard a lot

613
00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:38,000
of accounts where

614
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:44,710
because quite frankly things i haven't

615
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:48,159
heard from people about reptoids

616
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:50,400
and their personality and such i don't

617
00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:52,080
think they'd allow anything other than

618
00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:55,279
something from their own race

619
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:58,000
you know be an overlord to them i think

620
00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:58,640
that these

621
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:01,279
are these are something that that

622
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:02,240
transformed

623
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,590
may sound crazy but that's just what i

624
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:09,679
think

625
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:12,080
uh what type of reports does your team

626
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:12,880
take

627
00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:20,320
involved with the paranormal since 1976.

628
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:22,880
and uh you know i had encounters before

629
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:25,520
that when i was a kid

630
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:28,720
and i did um you know i did

631
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:30,159
a lot of different type of

632
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:31,679
investigations non-critical

633
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:33,120
investigations

634
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:36,320
until i had my uh

635
00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:39,360
until i had my actual bigfoot again

636
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:41,120
and you know when that happened i kind

637
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,510
you know i got hooked and uh i was um

638
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:51,360
you know i had heard about bigfoot you

639
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:53,520
know about that time was the

640
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:57,039
uh with the boggy creek stuff and the

641
00:28:01,830 --> 00:27:57,520
movie

642
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:01,840
and you know the hoopla about that and

643
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:04,960
um and also you know quite frankly the

644
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:07,440
the one thing that got me involved with

645
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:09,440
the paranormal

646
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:12,799
i mean in anything you know to the the

647
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:16,559
larger degree was the uh uh the betty

648
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:17,279
and barney

649
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:20,960
uh uh ill

650
00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:24,480
abduction yeah you know

651
00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:26,159
even though that happened in the the

652
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,159
early 60s that case

653
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:30,640
really started hitting for those of us

654
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:32,720
that are old enough to remember

655
00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:36,480
that really started hitting the uh

656
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:40,480
the media about 68-69

657
00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:43,039
and man i'm telling you for for those

658
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:45,120
who do remember it was a big story back

659
00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:46,799
then

660
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:49,919
and uh that's kind of where i got

661
00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:52,960
my feet wet with being an enthusiast of

662
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:56,240
uh the unexplained

663
00:29:01,029 --> 00:28:58,960
and i you know i you know there was

664
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:01,039
always a question about what ufos were

665
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,480
and stuff and you know

666
00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:04,960
we all at that time watched in search of

667
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:06,880
and all these other

668
00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:08,880
early shows about the paranormal and

669
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:10,880
they kind of got your

670
00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:12,880
interest peaked you know as far as what

671
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:14,480
was going on of course then there was

672
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:16,080
bigfoot

673
00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:22,630
that's kind of where i you know i got my

674
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:26,080
interest at but um

675
00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:27,840
did you maybe elaborate a little bit

676
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:30,240
about your uh bigfoot uh

677
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:31,600
encounter for the people that may have

678
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:33,679
not heard about it before before the

679
00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:41,750
this this happened in may 1981

680
00:29:48,149 --> 00:29:45,039
i was um i was fly fishing

681
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:48,159
along the uh patapsco south brahmatapska

682
00:29:53,669 --> 00:29:49,919
river which about a mile

683
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:53,679
downstream from sykesville maryland

684
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:56,880
now i i had never heard

685
00:30:02,470 --> 00:29:59,760
i i hadn't lived in the area for a long

686
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:02,480
time maybe about four years by that time

687
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:04,480
and i had never heard of the sexual

688
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:05,520
monster or anything

689
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:08,000
to that effect because back in the early

690
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:10,960
70s there was something that was

691
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:14,960
breaking into homes and to chicken pens

692
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:16,159
and

693
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:23,440
you know causing a stir it was it was

694
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:24,640
actually covered by

695
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:27,360
some of the media the uh the bottom

696
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:29,919
actually the baltimore afro-american

697
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:32,880
did the the most coverage because the

698
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:35,039
community was mostly a black community

699
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:37,600
at that time

700
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:40,880
and uh but anyway my encounter was that

701
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:41,600
uh

702
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:45,440
fishing and i

703
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:48,559
i saw after hearing a

704
00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:50,880
dog had been i've seen out there and

705
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:51,679
yelp

706
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:54,480
and this thing probably attacked the dog

707
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:55,120
and

708
00:31:00,630 --> 00:31:00,000
i could see it about chest high because

709
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:00,640
of the high

710
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:05,679
weeds and it was very hairy looking

711
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:08,640
humanoid you know uh and as it moved to

712
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,799
my left out of the weeds it stepped out

713
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:12,480
and it was standing here and

714
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:15,600
you know it and i had he and i because

715
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:17,120
it was definitely male i could tell i

716
00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:19,120
could see the genitalia on it

717
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:23,919
uh we um we locked eyes

718
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:26,559
i mean and maybe for like 10 seconds i

719
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:33,509
oh 50 foot away from and i wasn't that

720
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:34,559
far from it

721
00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:37,919
that's close and uh the one thing i did

722
00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:38,880
notice

723
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:41,840
was that they there was a kind of a

724
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:43,200
stench

725
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:45,120
but it smelled like foxy urine to me

726
00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:46,480
because i used to use fox here and when

727
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:47,519
i used to do

728
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:48,960
deer hunting i used to put it on my

729
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:51,760
shoes for masking but it smelled like

730
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:52,799
that

731
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:56,399
but uh the other thing was it was making

732
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:57,760
a ticking sound or a

733
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:00,320
clicking sound which i later found that

734
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:02,960
was probably gnashing its teeth

735
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:06,480
uh i heard other uh reports

736
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:08,080
something similar to that so that's what

737
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,159
i think it was but you know it and i

738
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:12,000
were looking at you for about 10 seconds

739
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:13,120
and you know

740
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:15,679
i think my jaw hit the water because i

741
00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:17,440
was standing in the water i think

742
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:18,960
i was shocked i mean i didn't know what

743
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:20,559
to think this thing was

744
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:22,880
i had you know i had chest waders on so

745
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:24,640
i wasn't going anywhere

746
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:28,159
too quickly anyway so this thing uh

747
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:30,240
it was about eight foot maybe seven

748
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:32,480
eight to eight foot in height

749
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:34,799
had the real thick brow ridge on it but

750
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:36,880
it looked more it had a lot of hair i

751
00:32:39,669 --> 00:32:38,640
mean it had a lot of dark brown air on

752
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:39,679
it

753
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:43,440
uh somewhat matted looking uh had the uh

754
00:32:50,549 --> 00:32:47,760
the the uh conical head

755
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:50,559
uh but it looked like what people would

756
00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:54,000
refer to as a neanderthal an early man

757
00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:56,240
you know if i had a gun i'd never shot

758
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:57,519
it because you know i didn't know what

759
00:33:00,549 --> 00:32:58,720
the hell it was

760
00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:00,559
uh but i i you know i had heard a

761
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:02,159
bigfoot i

762
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:04,720
you know bigfoot didn't pop into my head

763
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:06,320
at the time because i quite frank i

764
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,679
didn't know what the hell hell i was

765
00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:09,600
looking at

766
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:12,399
but it did it turned around and started

767
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:14,480
walking up into the woods and

768
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:17,200
uh you know i'm thinking myself well i

769
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:19,039
gotta tell somebody about this

770
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:22,720
so i got in my car up on the road got on

771
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,000
my car and drove into sykesville

772
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:28,799
and found a pay phone right by there was

773
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:29,200
a bar

774
00:33:36,149 --> 00:33:32,320
used to be this there by the river

775
00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:36,159
and uh i called the local cops

776
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:38,559
and uh you know they were kind of i

777
00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:41,200
could kind of hear the snickering behind

778
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:44,080
i was telling him that i saw something

779
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:44,640
and

780
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:47,200
uh i think i did tell them i thought it

781
00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:48,720
was a bigfoot or something to that

782
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:50,799
effect but anyway

783
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:52,799
uh the woman who would answer from the

784
00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:55,600
dispatcher said well look go

785
00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:59,440
go back to where you were and uh which i

786
00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:00,880
wasn't really thrilled about because i

787
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:02,080
knew this thing would

788
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:04,080
you know back out there but i did i went

789
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:05,360
back

790
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:07,120
and it quite frankly it was no more than

791
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:08,639
a two three minute drive it was only

792
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:10,320
about a mile away up river

793
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:17,589
and she said an officer will meet you

794
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:20,000
there well when i got there

795
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:22,240
there was a wooden barrier across the

796
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:23,200
road already

797
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:26,720
and there was a um

798
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:29,119
a maryland state police officer standing

799
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:30,800
there

800
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:33,839
i'm thinking my son what the hell how'd

801
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:35,440
he get there so damn quick

802
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:39,440
right and when i pulled up

803
00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:41,520
he said you got to get turn around and

804
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:42,639
go go back

805
00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:44,560
and i said well i made the report he

806
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:46,159
said i don't care

807
00:34:49,349 --> 00:34:48,000
i don't care what you did you got to

808
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,359
leave

809
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:51,599
i'm thinking i said well this is great

810
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:53,040
so i went ahead and went home

811
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:56,399
i lived in sykesville at the time

812
00:35:02,710 --> 00:34:59,920
so i went back home and you know i just

813
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:02,720
was itching to get back there about an

814
00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:05,359
hour later i decided to drive back

815
00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:07,839
well when i got back i had to park like

816
00:35:11,829 --> 00:35:09,440
a quarter mile down the road because

817
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:11,839
there was cars everywhere

818
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:14,079
and when i did walk up to the barrier

819
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:15,760
and they they did they had it cordoned

820
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:16,560
off

821
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:17,760
you know they had the tape and

822
00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:19,040
everything up even though this back in

823
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:20,880
the early 80s they had they used tape

824
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:21,920
back then

825
00:35:28,829 --> 00:35:25,839
and there was um there were

826
00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:28,839
uh guys with dogs going all all through

827
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:30,079
everything

828
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:34,000
and um there was a big white tent

829
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:37,280
actually set up across you know across

830
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:38,240
the river

831
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:41,680
where i had seen this thing so i don't

832
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:42,960
know what they have found

833
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:45,040
you know i walked up there and there was

834
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:46,880
a howard county police officer standing

835
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:47,920
here

836
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:55,920
a lot of governments i could hear

837
00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:58,480
helicopters i didn't see one but back

838
00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:59,200
then

839
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:01,760
the the feds used to drive black

840
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,480
wagoneers

841
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,720
and uh there were a couple of those

842
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:07,839
there

843
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:16,640
that were government types or officers

844
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:18,240
or police officers

845
00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:20,720
that's awfully fast yeah well what

846
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:23,119
happened was i asked the cop i said

847
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:25,119
what's going on being stupid you know

848
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,560
act like stupid and

849
00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:28,320
sure and i didn't want to tell him i was

850
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:30,800
the one who made the call and he said um

851
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:33,200
he said he started laughing so somebody

852
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:35,280
saw bigfoot

853
00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:40,880
i thought okay so i'm watching

854
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:43,040
and uh you know i stood around there i

855
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:44,400
didn't stay there long i went ahead and

856
00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:45,280
walked back and

857
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:48,400
went back home called the uh

858
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:52,240
the local tv stations in baltimore which

859
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:55,280
at the time of three of them called them

860
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:57,359
talk they were all interested in hearing

861
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:57,680
about

862
00:37:00,710 --> 00:37:00,400
my story and what happened and they said

863
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:00,720
well

864
00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:02,960
get back to us in a couple days or we'll

865
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:06,079
call you i said okay

866
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:10,480
so uh about five days later i had heard

867
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:12,640
anything so i called one back

868
00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:14,400
and the guy he literally hung up on me

869
00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:17,599
he told me i didn't want to talk to me

870
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:20,400
so i thought that was strange but anyway

871
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:23,520
i did find out later that there had been

872
00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:26,480
a sighting of a bigfoot about three

873
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:28,000
miles downstream around

874
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:31,599
marysville uh earlier that morning

875
00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:33,839
the morning i saw it so they were

876
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:36,160
already aware of but

877
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:37,839
the feds don't show up for something

878
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:39,599
like that for nothing

879
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:43,839
right and uh for people who are familiar

880
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:47,200
with the baltimore washington area

881
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:50,560
uh there are a lot of places out in the

882
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:51,440
sticks

883
00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:54,480
the suburbs where

884
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,960
there are fenced off areas and buildings

885
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:58,560
that you have no idea what the hell they

886
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:00,240
are

887
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:02,240
and i don't know if there was some type

888
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:04,960
of facility in the area

889
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:07,200
uh if something had escaped this thing

890
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:08,480
had escaped

891
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:12,000
or what happened but uh i do know that

892
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:13,359
happened and i it was

893
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:16,400
you know my story was corroborated by

894
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:19,440
a sexual police officer later on

895
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:23,359
who um who contacted me and wrote to me

896
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:24,640
and told me that yeah you know

897
00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:25,839
everything you said

898
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:29,359
happened you know now

899
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:33,920
i had i had contacted bfro in 95

900
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:36,160
when they you know when they formed and

901
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:37,040
told them about

902
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:39,280
it that they took the report and

903
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:40,079
everything

904
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:42,480
they investigated it and uh it was a

905
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:43,200
class a

906
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:46,160
sighting but that's when i started

907
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:48,400
finding out about the uh the saxophone

908
00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:50,000
monster

909
00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:55,040
uh incidents back in 73 72-73

910
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:57,760
and fortunately at the time you know me

911
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:59,280
being interested in wanting to know what

912
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:00,720
the hell i had seen and do an

913
00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:03,280
investigation

914
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:05,760
uh i worked for some of the people who

915
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:09,280
who lived down there by the river

916
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:12,079
and uh they were telling me oh yeah

917
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:13,760
there was a lot going on back then you

918
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:14,640
know

919
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:18,880
thing so man i

920
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:20,800
right off the bat i was given access to

921
00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:22,640
a lot of these witnesses

922
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:24,320
and in fact i was given access to the

923
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:26,800
witnesses who never even

924
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:28,240
had been part of the original

925
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,240
investigation so i like opened

926
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:32,560
everything back up

927
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:36,240
and uh that's kind of where it started

928
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:37,119
at you know and i

929
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:43,109
started collecting evidence on the

930
00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:44,800
psychoanal monster thing and started

931
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:47,440
getting other evidence around the area

932
00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:51,440
but uh quite frankly since my sighting

933
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:55,040
and now i haven't checked the bfro

934
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:58,320
map lately for that area but there have

935
00:40:00,870 --> 00:40:00,240
been four other class a sightings in

936
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:00,880
that area

937
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:05,040
so um people are seeing something

938
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,560
yeah so we got any questions

939
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:12,480
i'm sitting there jawing and i didn't i

940
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:14,400
didn't look for any questions

941
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:16,079
uh what are your thoughts on black eyed

942
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:18,880
kids well that's a good question because

943
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:20,800
you know when i wrote the alien book the

944
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:23,520
only disclosure book

945
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:26,800
i i was kind of wondering what

946
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:29,920
i could classify as a uh

947
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:33,440
possible uh non-terrestrial being

948
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:37,440
now the only the the one phenomena that

949
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:38,560
i do believe

950
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:42,160
may be possibly be a non-terrestrial

951
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:42,880
being or

952
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:45,599
the men in black phenomena now i think

953
00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:46,400
that

954
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:47,839
i'm starting to believe more and more

955
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:48,960
that they aren't connected with the

956
00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:50,480
government i'm starting to believe more

957
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:51,200
that they're

958
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:53,920
they are a separate entity in itself

959
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:55,599
that have the ability to find

960
00:41:02,309 --> 00:40:58,720
to know when people see things

961
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:02,319
and just show up um

962
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,720
it has happened way too many times as

963
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,720
far as black eyed kids

964
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:08,800
i don't know what the hell they are you

965
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:09,920
know you know

966
00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:12,640
you know david weatherly was kind of the

967
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:14,480
the one investigator

968
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:16,400
who kind of brought this whole phenomena

969
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:18,319
to light when he started

970
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:21,359
you know reporting on it and then he

971
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:24,480
wrote a book about it

972
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:28,079
and um you know the cases i have talked

973
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:29,920
to people who have had the you know

974
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:32,880
these experiences

975
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:38,470
you know i i think there is a

976
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:40,000
malevolency there

977
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:43,920
in some degree uh

978
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:46,960
but i haven't really heard

979
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:50,240
of any situation

980
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:53,040
other than where there may have been a

981
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:54,240
fire started about

982
00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:58,319
one down in florida years ago

983
00:42:01,829 --> 00:42:00,240
i don't know of any other situation

984
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:01,839
where they have actually hurt people i

985
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:03,599
may be wrong

986
00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:07,680
uh you know the the black eyed phenomena

987
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:10,640
that jack kerry talks about with him in

988
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:13,440
jc when they had that experience

989
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:16,079
uh that's about as bad as it gets

990
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:16,720
because

991
00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:20,000
uh those guys whatever that

992
00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:23,920
that that female was affected them just

993
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:24,480
by them

994
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,160
looking at it and um those two guys got

995
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:30,480
sick as dogs

996
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:32,400
so i don't know i don't know what what

997
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:34,000
had happened

998
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:36,000
yeah the whole black-eyed kid or

999
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:37,839
black-eyed adults

1000
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:45,510
it's an enigma it really is i mean i

1001
00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:46,720
i've heard

1002
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:49,119
all kinds of crazy stories of involving

1003
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:50,560
these things

1004
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:53,280
uh and it's not always out in the sticks

1005
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:54,240
or somewhere

1006
00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:56,960
i mean you hear about them in in urban

1007
00:43:02,950 --> 00:42:58,319
areas as well

1008
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:02,960
sure uh you know i had some cases

1009
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:05,359
that had happened in atlantic city area

1010
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:06,240
for whatever

1011
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:07,760
reason in fact there was like two or

1012
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:09,280
three of them

1013
00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:12,000
where they seemed to be like a gang up

1014
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:13,040
oh

1015
00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:15,839
yeah and um there were people reporting

1016
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:21,270
you know that they were harassing people

1017
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:22,960
and such uh

1018
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:25,040
around atlantic city for a while and i

1019
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,960
haven't heard anything in a while

1020
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:28,640
you know it's strange how they always

1021
00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:30,079
ask permission

1022
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:31,760
to enter the house it's like they're

1023
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:33,599
almost like

1024
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:35,760
yeah right like a vampire right yeah

1025
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:37,599
it's crazy i don't i don't know

1026
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:39,680
i don't know what the whole deal is with

1027
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:40,960
that

1028
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:45,119
you know i had um i have had reports

1029
00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:48,160
uh well there was one not far from here

1030
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:51,200
uh in calan towns gap state park where

1031
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:52,800
this couple

1032
00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:55,040
had run across and this was in the

1033
00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:57,839
winter time it was in that state park

1034
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:00,160
uh and this couple they were just out

1035
00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:02,000
walking around

1036
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:05,359
you know after christmas uh

1037
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:07,359
in the state park it was probably warm

1038
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,839
enough it didn't bother them too bad but

1039
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:11,440
they were approached by three of these

1040
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:13,119
kids as they were sitting

1041
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:16,560
on an old picnic table

1042
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:21,839
and uh they were acting weird in fact

1043
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,839
one of the young girls

1044
00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:25,920
pulled out a pack of cigarettes i mean

1045
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:28,560
he started smoking in front of him

1046
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,119
and uh but they had the the

1047
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:35,760
typical characterization like acting

1048
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:38,640
like a bunch of zombies

1049
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:40,079
no yeah and they're that they've got

1050
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:41,760
clothes on that doesn't match

1051
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:44,880
the uh time period or the the well not

1052
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:45,520
only that

1053
00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:47,119
here it is the middle of the winter and

1054
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:49,200
they're they're well and they

1055
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:50,720
they were walking around in regular

1056
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:53,680
clothes without with light jackets on

1057
00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:57,119
and uh they did see them later uh

1058
00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:00,319
it was down the road further

1059
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:03,920
uh a man and wife and he had gone into

1060
00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:05,839
the post office and she was sitting in

1061
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:09,200
the car and she saw them walk by

1062
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:12,319
uh you know it was funny because

1063
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:14,640
you know it seems sometimes certain

1064
00:45:18,309 --> 00:45:16,319
people are able to see them as some

1065
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:18,319
people aren't yeah

1066
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:21,280
that's like you know it's like with this

1067
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:23,359
wing humanoid phenomenon some seems like

1068
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:24,560
some people

1069
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:28,000
see them and some don't now are people

1070
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:30,800
predisposed to being able to see these

1071
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:31,760
things

1072
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:33,520
you know i think in some instances that

1073
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:34,800
may be true

1074
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:37,200
and some of the phenomena we you know we

1075
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:40,079
people encounter and that we report on

1076
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,000
so who knows i don't know what the black

1077
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:46,000
eyed kids is it's an interesting thing

1078
00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:49,200
but i don't know you know

1079
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:53,680
there are a few outstanding accounts but

1080
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:00,309
have you experienced reptilians or other

1081
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:02,960
et's personally yeah i have

1082
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:06,640
i uh i had an encounter

1083
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:08,960
with what people would describe as tall

1084
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:15,030
and i've talked about this before and i

1085
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:16,560
talk about it in the book

1086
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:19,760
um the year my wife was

1087
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:25,119
battling cancer um which was 2015.

1088
00:46:29,109 --> 00:46:27,200
i had a couple encounters with these

1089
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:29,119
these things at home

1090
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:30,960
now at the time i was sleeping out in

1091
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:33,359
the living room on recliner

1092
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,960
because she had the bed to herself

1093
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:36,480
because you know being sick and

1094
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:37,440
everything

1095
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:40,640
and i didn't want to bother and these

1096
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:43,760
things would just show up

1097
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:46,880
you know madness

1098
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:49,200
and recliner asleep and then waking up

1099
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:51,680
and seeing three tall graves

1100
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:53,440
you know standing here looking down on

1101
00:47:01,349 --> 00:47:00,790
so um i don't know what that was all

1102
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:01,359
about

1103
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:05,599
that whole year

1104
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:12,950
i was having seeing references to owls

1105
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:16,319
seeing owls hearing owls

1106
00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:18,880
it was crazy you know and i don't know

1107
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:19,599
if they're

1108
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:21,119
i'm pretty sure there was a connection

1109
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:24,000
somewhere anyway

1110
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:27,599
after my wife had passed and not long

1111
00:47:32,069 --> 00:47:29,280
after she had passed

1112
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:32,079
i had uh i had what i believe was an

1113
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:34,079
abduction encounter

1114
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:37,680
and i was taken to i don't know if it

1115
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:39,440
was a craft or just a

1116
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:42,160
facility or whatever but it was these

1117
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:43,920
three tall greys and they i mean

1118
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:46,000
when i say tall they were thing about

1119
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:48,000
seven to eight foot light

1120
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:50,960
and they looked like gray aliens but

1121
00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:52,880
they were just big you know big and tall

1122
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:56,319
lanky but big and uh

1123
00:48:03,190 --> 00:47:59,359
they communicated

1124
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:03,200
you know telepath telepathically

1125
00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:06,240
it was almost like and i've heard people

1126
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:08,480
describe this it's it's almost like

1127
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:09,359
they're they are

1128
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:12,160
talking to you and you can really hear

1129
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:12,640
them

1130
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:15,760
just like they're talking to you but

1131
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:17,119
they're not they're

1132
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,480
they're probably they're projecting

1133
00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:20,400
words into your your head

1134
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:27,750
what they had me do i was standing in

1135
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:29,359
front of the screen

1136
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:32,079
and it looked like a large screen and

1137
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:33,359
they were showing me

1138
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,400
historical uh events

1139
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:40,319
and basically what they had shown me

1140
00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:41,680
were

1141
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:45,200
um in the the original scenario

1142
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:47,599
they showed me was this huge circular

1143
00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:49,040
craft

1144
00:48:53,109 --> 00:48:51,440
that landed and i said when i say huge i

1145
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:53,119
mean huge

1146
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:57,440
you know miles across

1147
00:49:01,109 --> 00:49:00,400
many miles across this huge circular

1148
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:01,119
craft

1149
00:49:12,309 --> 00:49:09,589
descended and landed in the area

1150
00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:12,319
uh around what we present day in nile

1151
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:13,599
delta

1152
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,960
now what they showed me at that time was

1153
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:18,559
actually

1154
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:21,760
uh in an area that was all

1155
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:24,800
surrounded by ocean mediterranean

1156
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,280
but they they impressed on me that this

1157
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:29,119
is around

1158
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:37,109
and uh this was the start of

1159
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:40,319
or an incident

1160
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:44,160
where there was actual human

1161
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:47,520
and alien connection but you know these

1162
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:53,270
these non-terrestrial beings that they

1163
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:54,880
showed me on this craft

1164
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:58,000
look human and

1165
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:01,040
and and they they basically stated to me

1166
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:03,520
that these were

1167
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:06,559
these they influenced a lot of the uh

1168
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:09,680
large and small civilizations in that

1169
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:12,160
fertile crescent area or you know around

1170
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:12,480
where

1171
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:15,839
egypt and mesopotamia and you know even

1172
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:16,240
up

1173
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:18,880
i guess into greece and you know the

1174
00:50:23,109 --> 00:50:19,280
whole

1175
00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:23,119
eastern mediterranean you know

1176
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:26,720
civilizations they emphasized

1177
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:28,240
the egyptians it really did the

1178
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:29,839
emphasize was egyptians

1179
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:31,599
and the one thing i did ask them about

1180
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,829
is this atlantis but i never got an

1181
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:40,400
answer

1182
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:48,230
that was my encounter now i had

1183
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:50,640
something happen

1184
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:53,680
in early april this year and it was the

1185
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:54,079
same

1186
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:57,599
three but i don't remember much at all

1187
00:51:01,589 --> 00:50:58,160
about it

1188
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:01,599
honestly it was it was quick i knew they

1189
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:03,040
showed me something but i

1190
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:05,920
i just don't remember you know i i talk

1191
00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:07,040
to people

1192
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:09,119
a lot of people about their encounters

1193
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:10,319
with you know

1194
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:13,839
abductions and such and

1195
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:16,800
most people don't recall this stuff

1196
00:51:19,349 --> 00:51:17,280
until

1197
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:19,359
many years later and i i think that's

1198
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:20,880
what's going to happen to me

1199
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:22,400
you know if i live that long you know

1200
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:25,040
the thing is is this gonna come back

1201
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,440
and uh i'm gonna end up writing two or

1202
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:29,520
three books about it i don't know

1203
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:32,559
you know uh i

1204
00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:34,480
never consider doing like maybe like a

1205
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:36,319
hypnosis session or something

1206
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:42,000
you know i have witnessed regressions

1207
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:44,400
i have witnessed hardcore they can

1208
00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:45,680
really be

1209
00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:48,839
disturbing they are scary they really

1210
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:50,400
are i

1211
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:55,670
and i'm when i'm talking regression i'm

1212
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:57,440
not just talking about alien

1213
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,000
involvement regression i'm talking like

1214
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:02,640
past live regressions and things that

1215
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:05,359
people are going through and uh it you

1216
00:52:08,150 --> 00:52:06,960
know it's interesting listening to it

1217
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:08,160
really is

1218
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:11,760
uh especially if i have a hypnotic

1219
00:52:17,109 --> 00:52:14,400
therapist who's good at it yeah and

1220
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:17,119
there aren't many that are good at it

1221
00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:20,480
um but uh i you know i have thought

1222
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:22,240
about it

1223
00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:23,839
i've had people try to talk me into

1224
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:25,760
doing it i i don't know i might do it

1225
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:27,280
one time by somebody

1226
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:31,040
if i find somebody that i trust you know

1227
00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:33,040
to do it i may do it you know i've

1228
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:35,119
talked to brett about it

1229
00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:38,160
yeah before and she you know she she's

1230
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:40,720
not really sure if i should do it either

1231
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:42,480
uh she's kind of skeptical of the whole

1232
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:43,760
thing though she has been through a

1233
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:45,119
regression

1234
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:46,800
i'm not going to get through that but

1235
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:48,160
i'm not going to get into that but it

1236
00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:49,760
was pretty interesting

1237
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:57,270
that's that what else we got we got

1238
00:53:02,069 --> 00:52:59,040
another question

1239
00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:02,079
i've got a weird question for you okay

1240
00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:02,640
these

1241
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:07,520
every

1242
00:53:13,109 --> 00:53:11,119
continent on on the globe

1243
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:13,119
what do we think they are i don't know

1244
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:14,800
what they are

1245
00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:16,880
you know i'm writing this book now and

1246
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:18,800
i'm investigating and

1247
00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:21,680
researching and i'm probably is more

1248
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:23,440
confused than i was when i first started

1249
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:24,480
doing this you know i

1250
00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:27,040
you know i hear i hear stuff all the

1251
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:27,520
time

1252
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:33,680
uh who have these encounters and the

1253
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:35,599
fact that they just show up the way they

1254
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:36,880
do

1255
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:39,359
and in areas where there haven't been

1256
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:42,240
any activity before

1257
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:46,640
or any reported activity before now

1258
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:49,680
we had these pale humanoids

1259
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:52,240
uh most of the sightings that we're

1260
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:53,200
getting are in

1261
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:56,720
north america took the us and canada

1262
00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:58,559
and uh we've had a few here in

1263
00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:00,559
pennsylvania as well

1264
00:54:04,710 --> 00:54:02,800
uh i talked to stan gordon about it he

1265
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:04,720
said he's had a few out his way

1266
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:07,760
out in the western part uh i had one

1267
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:10,800
near butch out there by

1268
00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:14,000
french creek state park and

1269
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:17,280
uh he's actually put butch has been

1270
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:18,160
putting

1271
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:21,200
camera traps out there oh boy so

1272
00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:22,960
hopefully we'll find something

1273
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:25,599
now that area has been known for upright

1274
00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:28,160
canine settings as well so

1275
00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:30,000
maybe he'll grab something there but no

1276
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:32,480
this whole this old

1277
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:35,920
crawlers or walkers or whatever

1278
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:38,640
you want to call them it's bizarre it is

1279
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:40,240
i i i know i don't know

1280
00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:43,040
what what they are how they just show up

1281
00:54:46,789 --> 00:54:44,559
and why they show up

1282
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:46,799
if there's a specific reason as to why

1283
00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:48,799
they show up or what they do

1284
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:51,839
they don't seem to be benevolent

1285
00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:55,680
benevolent uh you know unlike

1286
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,079
people talk about with wendigos and that

1287
00:55:02,549 --> 00:54:59,760
type of cannibalistic

1288
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:02,559
right it's nothing even near that these

1289
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:02,960
are

1290
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,760
kind of benign type creatures that just

1291
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:07,440
scare the living hell out of people

1292
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:09,119
and uh you know it's just like with the

1293
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:10,480
penelope

1294
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:13,359
phenomena out in the sierra nevadas i

1295
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:15,920
i've got a couple of reports out there

1296
00:55:20,549 --> 00:55:18,720
that i've confirmed with uh with park

1297
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:20,559
rangers out there that people are seeing

1298
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:21,839
something

1299
00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:23,839
uh they're reporting it i don't i i

1300
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:25,359
still don't know how that'll be named

1301
00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:27,200
got stuck on there

1302
00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:29,599
i don't know either so i wish i did an

1303
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:32,640
angry ex-girlfriend or something

1304
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:34,400
well i talked to one of the original

1305
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:35,839
witnesses about that

1306
00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:37,839
and he may be in the guy who put the

1307
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:39,359
name on there

1308
00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:42,720
but you know i didn't know about it so

1309
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:44,480
maybe that maybe i'll find out before

1310
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:49,839
the book comes up

1311
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:51,839
yeah that andy k was saying about the

1312
00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:54,160
one in poland that was pretty scary

1313
00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:56,400
yeah that was uh i took some screenshots

1314
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:57,520
of that thing

1315
00:56:01,349 --> 00:56:00,720
off that video and i i have been in the

1316
00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:01,359
book

1317
00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:04,400
but yeah that was pretty wild looking

1318
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,480
and they do make some hellish noise

1319
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,400
screaming and stuff

1320
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:10,559
uh yeah elon google says you're a

1321
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:11,440
musical artist

1322
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:12,960
yeah that's not correct you know i'm

1323
00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:15,520
trying to get google to change that

1324
00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:17,599
uh i don't know what the deal is i don't

1325
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:19,359
know if somebody hacked into it and

1326
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:20,720
changed it

1327
00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:22,960
but it's supposed to have their author

1328
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:25,520
instead of a musical artist

1329
00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:27,599
i already contacted google but you know

1330
00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:30,079
how google is they

1331
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:39,910
well that's you know we've almost got

1332
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:43,040
through an hour my god

1333
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:46,400
that flew by didn't it well

1334
00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:48,319
i i think what i'll do i'll go ahead and

1335
00:56:51,750 --> 00:56:50,000
shut this down for

1336
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:51,760
for the night uh like i said i

1337
00:56:57,829 --> 00:56:54,640
rescheduled uh

1338
00:56:58,710 --> 00:56:57,839
i rescheduled tanya for uh i was the

1339
00:57:02,069 --> 00:56:58,720
23rd

1340
00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:02,079
of september and we'll have her come on

1341
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:03,680
i did read the book it's

1342
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:06,640
it's an interesting story she talks

1343
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:08,400
about uh

1344
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:12,240
actually you know being

1345
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:15,200
involved with this injured cold and a

1346
00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:18,000
couple other these uh

1347
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:21,599
uh lanulos beings and

1348
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:25,280
that injured cold had children and she

1349
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:27,280
she still interacts with him apparently

1350
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:30,400
even though he's over 100 years old

1351
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:33,760
uh it's pretty interesting

1352
00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:36,559
so uh yeah i will have a lot of a lot of

1353
00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:38,720
questions for her

1354
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:41,359
i was busy last night writing stuff up

1355
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:41,920
uh

1356
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:44,880
but we'll have to postpone it to another

1357
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:46,480
time

1358
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:49,839
so uh yeah vincent thanks for being on

1359
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:50,960
here with me tonight

1360
00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:53,680
and uh thanks for having me we'll shut

1361
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:54,079
this

1362
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,960
down and uh next week i've got carter

1363
00:58:02,069 --> 00:57:58,640
bouchard on with me

1364
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:02,079
he's got a new book out and uh

1365
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:04,480
it's an interesting book he he does a

1366
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:12,230
structures and stuff and

1367
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:15,920
we'll talk bigfoot next week and

1368
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:18,480
so you know again thank everybody for

1369
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:20,880
the super chat donations

1370
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:23,760
man it's really appreciated uh you know

1371
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:26,319
that's what keeps us going here

1372
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:29,440
and uh you know again please like and

1373
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:31,040
subscribe

1374
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:34,480
and share with other folks and

1375
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:36,319
you know i thank you all for putting up

1376
00:58:41,349 --> 00:58:37,680
with me tonight and

1377
00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:41,359
um i know you're expecting tanya to be

1378
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:42,799
on here but

1379
00:58:50,549 --> 00:58:46,079
i thank you all for sticking with me so

1380
00:59:15,240 --> 00:58:50,559
um again until next week stay healthy

1381
00:59:15,250 --> 00:59:40,300
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